Droitière ou gauchère / Right-handed or left-handed

Pour une gauchère comme moi, un miroir fait tout à fait l'affaire.

For a left-handed like me, a mirror is quite useful.

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Hi, I am relatively new at needle lace and though I have no problems with most stitches I am always completely confused as where to start. I am left handed also. If I were interested in starting a twisted buttonhole ground and do it as a right hander would do it with the needle facing "away," I would start at the bottom right side wouldn't I?

I am having trouble seeing in my mind what you are asking. But as I understand it, you can work any needlelace stitche from right to left or from left to right. It doesn't matter.

okay, that is what i needed to know as i've seen diagrams of the stitches starting from just about every corner. My left handed brain tends to get things mixed but i prefer to work things in the direction of a right hander when i do any fiber arts like spinning, naalbinding etc but crocheting means transposing diagrams etc.and i work in my left hand I didn't know if there was a "correct" place to start. I've done embroidery my whole life and a little needlelace in stumpwork projects etc but was unsure about traditional needlelace. This is new territory but it is fun and exciting.

It is fun. And virtually any drawing or photograph can be turned into a pattern or a basis for design.

I would love to eventually do a few motifs from point de gaze and gros point, maybe alencon. I've been building pieces of irish crochet and will eventually put all of these together on a dress (aspirations.) I bought Catherine Barley's book. Waiting for it to arrive. Can you tell me what size threads were used in making Venetian gros point? Did they use silk, linen etc?

Julianna et Lorelei. Cette question n'est pas toujours simple à répondre. Les indications fournies dans les livres sont faites pour les droitiers; donc, en règle générale, les gauchers n’ont qu’à inverser, c.-à-d. commencer à droite si les indications vous dictent de commencer à gauche, et de haut en bas quand on vous dit de commencer de bas en haut. Dans le cas précis du twisted whipped buttonhole stitch et en tant que gauchère, je le commence à droite pour la dentelle d’Alençon et de Burano, mais le même point se fait à Burano de haut en bas. Les variantes des points sont nombreuses et vous pourriez avoir à faire uniquement le twisted buttonhole stitch sans l’enroulement du retour, donc, à ce moment il vous faudra pouvoir inverser le twist et revenir sur vos pas de gauche à droite. Autre exemple, le simple buttonhole stitch est souvent utilisé en aller et retour. Votre motif aussi nécessitera parfois d’inverser la direction pour plus d’accommodation. Il m’apparaît impossible d’être dentellière sans être capable de travailler indifféremment dans les deux sens, même s’il en ressort une préférence pour chacune.

Julianna and Lorelei. This question is not easy to answer. The information in the books are for right-handed; therefore, in general, you only have to do the reverse, that is to say, start right if the author dictates to you start on the left, and up and down when you are told to start from the bottom to the top. In the specific case of twisted whipped buttonhole stitch and as a left-handed, I start it right for the Alençon lace as for the Burano lace, but this same stitch is made in Burano from top to bottom. The variants are many in matter of stitches and you may have to make only the twisted buttonhole stitch without a return, so at that point, you will need to reverse the twist in coming back and retrace your steps from left to right. Another example is the single buttonhole stitch, which is often used in both ways. Your motif also sometimes require to reverse the direction for more accommodation. It appears to me impossible to make lace without being able to work equally well in both directions, even if it shows a preference for each of us.

yes, yes I understand. I guess I was thinking of the ground for point de gaze, where the twist has to remain in the same direction even when going back and forth. It was confusing me terribly but I think I know what you mean. When I'm doing naalbinding I stitch with my right hand but for some reason I just cant stitch with a small needle in my right hand it has to be left. I've been going back over Lorelei's pictures and diagrams. I think I'm figuring it out in my head. So it is really more important to just be consistent correct?
Christiane Machabée said:

Julianna et Lorelei. Cette question n'est pas toujours simple à répondre. Les indications fournies dans les livres sont faites pour les droitiers; donc, en règle générale, les gauchers n’ont qu’à inverser, c.-à-d. commencer à droite si les indications vous dictent de commencer à gauche, et de haut en bas quand on vous dit de commencer de bas en haut. Dans le cas précis du twisted whipped buttonhole stitch et en tant que gauchère, je le commence à droite pour la dentelle d’Alençon et de Burano, mais le même point se fait à Burano de haut en bas. Les variantes des points sont nombreuses et vous pourriez avoir à faire uniquement le twisted buttonhole stitch sans l’enroulement du retour, donc, à ce moment il vous faudra pouvoir inverser le twist et revenir sur vos pas de gauche à droite. Autre exemple, le simple buttonhole stitch est souvent utilisé en aller et retour. Votre motif aussi nécessitera parfois d’inverser la direction pour plus d’accommodation. Il m’apparaît impossible d’être dentellière sans être capable de travailler indifféremment dans les deux sens, même s’il en ressort une préférence pour chacune.

Julianna and Lorelei. This question is not easy to answer. The information in the books are for right-handed; therefore, in general, you only have to do the reverse, that is to say, start right if the author dictates to you start on the left, and up and down when you are told to start from the bottom to the top. In the specific case of twisted whipped buttonhole stitch and as a left-handed, I start it right for the Alençon lace as for the Burano lace, but this same stitch is made in Burano from top to bottom. The variants are many in matter of stitches and you may have to make only the twisted buttonhole stitch without a return, so at that point, you will need to reverse the twist in coming back and retrace your steps from left to right. Another example is the single buttonhole stitch, which is often used in both ways. Your motif also sometimes require to reverse the direction for more accommodation. It appears to me impossible to make lace without being able to work equally well in both directions, even if it shows a preference for each of us.

Julianna. Je garde toujours à portée de la main un miroir pour me faciliter la tâche de renverser le mouvement. Le cerveau n'arrive pas toujours à le faire aisément et sans aide. Bonne dentelle à vous!

Julianna. I always keep at hand a mirror to facilitate the task to reverse the movement. The brain does not always seem to do it easily and without help. Good lace to you!

HA! Very good idea! I might try this just to keep myself in check. Thank you!

Hi Julianna, when working a twisted stitch from right to left, you obtain two twists. However, when working left to right, you get only one twist, thus the stitch is shorter in effect. Happy playing!!
I've been working twisted buttonhole stitch in one direction only and overcasting each stitch twice on the return. That makes it easy to keep consistent as you work the stitch twists in your preferred direction. If you have done any spinning, then you know that making your twists one way tends to unlay the thread and the other can make the twist tighter. Experiment with your thread and see which lays better in the ground.

Thank you both for your input! so in effect the same should hold true if i wanted to replicate the point de gaze ground...3 twists on way and two the other correct, Teri? the only stitch i've ever used was the buttonhole stitch for embroidery and relief pieces on stumpwork so the twisted stitches have thrown me off abit being lefthanded. I'm practicing and we shall see! Lagartija, yes, yes I've noticed that with the difference between the single and the single with straight return even. Single with straight return overtwists the thread and the single worked back and forth will overtwist then untwist a bit. And of course I'm assuming that depending on direction of stiches and direction of thread twists (s or z) would factor in. I am totally enjoying needlelace though I am sure it will be some time before my stitches become even and pretty.

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