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Beginners Needle Lace

For beginners who want to learn true needlelace. Post questions and answers here.  How to make needle lace.

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Needle Lace Patterns Books and Supplies

I have broken down our lengthy list of books, supplies and resources into several sections.  Click on the links below. 

Recommended books and videos 

Supplies and materials needed

Patterns and tutorials on this site 

Online resources at other sites 

Working Setup: in the hand and with a pillow

Photos of Beginners' Work 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/threads/forum/topics/thread-equivalents

Working setup, various ways -

 https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/needle-lace-working-setup-and-tutorials/   

Discussion Forum

Pillow preference 7 Replies

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Needlelace Tutorial - Leaf 10 - Part 2 8 Replies

Started by Lorelei Halley. Last reply by Maria Delaney Mar 1.

My first try - sampler 8 Replies

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New and first try at needle lace - comments, please? 10 Replies

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Total beginner! 7 Replies

Started by 313ak82ug1b8r. Last reply by Teri Dow May 24, 2016.

bolster pillow 3 Replies

Started by e parkes. Last reply by e parkes Dec 14, 2015.

Needle Direction 11 Replies

Started by Leslie Edens. Last reply by Leslie Edens Apr 1, 2015.

I just completed my first piece, and would love feedback 7 Replies

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Total Beginner 6 Replies

Started by Carolyn S. Last reply by Carolyn S Oct 11, 2014.

Needlelace Tutorial - Leaf 10 - Part 1 - Laying the outline threads 12 Replies

Started by Lorelei Halley. Last reply by Anneliese Perinic Sep 17, 2014.

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Comment by Lorelei Halley on September 19, 2016 at 5:30pm

Yuuka - your questions.

1. All buttonhole stitches used as fillings must be attached to the outline cordonnet at the beginning and ending of every row. The first row of the filling is usually worked over the cordonnet. My photo below shows this. The rusty orange threads are the outline cordonnet, and the yellow are the filling stitches- a simple buttonhole stitch. You can see the yellow thread wrapped around the cordonnet at the beginning of the row, and the first row of buttonhole stitches worked over the cordonnet.

2. All the sections of the design should be surrounded by the cordonnet, so that all the filling stitches are attached to the cordonnet. That is the purpose of the cordonnet. It offers the filling stitches an anchor.

3. As to how to do the stitches, I have some diagrams on my personal website, which may help. Please look at those and try to understand it. I have the twisted buttonhole diagrammed sequentially.   http://lynxlace.com/needlelacestitches.html     

Also we have Michael Dennis' videos with access from this site. I think some of the possible stitches will be shown and perhaps that will be easier to follow.  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/page/tutorials-1 

I strongly recommend that you look closely at all his videos, and also at my tutorials on this site. My lessons explains the purpose of the outline, and how to lay the cordonnet for some simple pieces, so you can learn to understand the basic idea behind needlelace.

TUTORIAL 1 -- Plain bookmark sampler, part 1: laying the outline, corded Brussels filling

TUTORIAL 1 -- Plain bookmark sampler, part 2: more filling stitches, bars, the cordonnette

TUTORIAL 2 -- Leaf 10, part 1: laying the outline threads

TUTORIAL 2 -- Leaf 10, part 2: more fillings, buttonholing the cordonnette (outline)

Are you using the Guild of Needle Laces mushrooms? or did you find something different?

Comment by Teri Dow on September 19, 2016 at 10:11am
Hi Yuuka, would it be possible for you to post a photo of the design you have in mind. Beware copyright etc, unless you have permissions etc. An accompanying legend of stitches would help too. Twisted stitch is the basis of many patterns but takes hours and hours of practice. YouTube has three Italian Burano lace videos which are very informative.
Comment by Yuuka Harris on September 19, 2016 at 8:05am

I've finally printed out the pattern I want to use :] 

This has actually created some new issues, as I'm planning how to deal with some design elements, and I have a new batch of questions :P (again)

1.) Is it possible to buttonhole stitches that aren't connected to the outline cordonnet? I don't think so, as I can't pierce the paper with them. 

2.) Can I cordonnet around individual motifs within the outline cordonnet (where the stitches should go) so that the stitches have something to cling to and build off of? 

3.) Elizabeth mentioned using a twisted stitch as netting. I went looking for it and the diagrams I found on stitches didn't help me much, as drawings usually are difficult for me to visualize with something as constantly-moving as sewing. How do I do that stitch, and can I use it to connect the individual cordonnet'ed motifs to the rest of the lace piece? 

I apologize if my questions are vague, I feel like needlelace is a jigsaw puzzle of sorts and it's my job to figure out how I want the pieces to fit together in my own work. :P

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti. on September 14, 2016 at 9:36pm

Lorelei is right, Yuuka, you have to have a go at the craft, and then, after you have worked a piece (or part of a piece) we can help you.  If you take a photo to show us, we can see where you need the help, or what is going right, (or wrong1)

Just thinking about it, will not get you started.  thread that needle, and have a go!!

Remember - we were all beginners once, so we know the difficulties!!!

Comment by Lorelei Halley on September 14, 2016 at 5:08pm

Yuuka

Don't demand perfection of yourself on your first attempt. Just do it. As you work you will discover difficulties and problems. You can then write to us and our members will respond with specific advice. Just promise yourself that each piece will be better made than the last one. That is enough progress.

Comment by Yuuka Harris on September 14, 2016 at 2:49pm

I'm a bit nervous about making my own piece, but I think this will be the week where I dive in :]

Comment by Lorelei Halley on September 12, 2016 at 4:38pm

I think the best way to answer your question is to suggest that you look at our album of contemporary needle lace. I have actually collected 4 albums of our members' work. You will see how they dealt with that problem.

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/album/listForOwner?screenName=... 

As for eyes, there are several possibilities. There are little tiny buttonholed rings that you can make and stitch on top of the lace. Or you can work a hole in the filling where the eye is. When you look through those photos, notice how others have depicted eyes. That might give you some ideas.

Comment by Yuuka Harris on September 12, 2016 at 2:50pm

Those actually did help me visualize the process beforehand :] 

Are there any stipulations for choosing line drawings as lace patterns? As in, do all the lines in the picture have to join? If the pattern has eyes, for instance, is that not a good pattern to work since you're outlining the eyes with a disjointed cordonnet that doesn't connect? 

Comment by Lorelei Halley on September 11, 2016 at 4:41pm

Yuuka

Take a look at the 2 tutorials I wrote and posted on this site. They are not videos, but have many photos and diagrams, and I think the explanations of why to do things are pretty clear.

Basically you start the filling by wrapping the filling thread around the outline threads to secure them. This is part of the function of the outline threads. It is also the reason behind buttonholing the outline, when all the fillings are complete. The buttonholing firmly secures the beginning and ending tails.

TUTORIAL 1 -- Plain bookmark sampler, part 1: laying the outline, corded Brussels filling

TUTORIAL 1 -- Plain bookmark sampler, part 2: more filling stitches, bars, the cordonnette

PHOTOS AND DIAGRAMS FOR TUTORIAL 1 are here.

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TUTORIAL 2 -- Leaf 10, part 1: laying the outline threads

TUTORIAL 2 -- Leaf 10, part 2: more fillings, buttonholing the cordonnette (outline)

PHOTOS AND DIAGRAMS FOR TUTORIAL 2 are  here.   

As to where to start filling stitches, once the cordonnet is laid down, there is no hard and fast rule. Sometimes you want the rows to work in perfect horizontal lines. Sometimes you want the rows to follow the curve of the motif.

Whether you choose to work the GoNL mushrooms exactly as they did, or whether you choose your own, is up to you. If you look at the examples posted online I think you will see several possibilities.  For the fillings I don't think the sequence usually matters much.

For the working order on buttonholing the outline when all the fillings are complete, there is one thing to consider.  One issue is that when you have a design where some parts lie in front of other parts (like petals of a flower, some of which are conceptually on top of others) you would buttonhole the background parts first, and the "top" parts last, to enhance the appearance of layering.

Comment by Yuuka Harris on September 10, 2016 at 6:41pm

I really wish it came in pdf form :[ It's not so easy to ship things to my house and I buy most books in pdf. 

Also, after I lay down the cordonnet, how do I know where exactly my needle goes in first? I've seen videos, but I don't feel quite clear on it and I would rather know the "why" instead of just the individual "where" for that particular project

 
 
 

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