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Pag Needle Lace

For those who want to learn Pag--the Croatian needle lace-- or discuss its features and working methods.  The icon is from the lacecorner website, and used with their permission.

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Latest Activity: Oct 11

Resources for Pag Needle Lace

To start, look for the black bar at the very top of the screen.  On its right hand edge is a search slot, for searches that operate on our network only.  Type in Pag and you will find the scattered discussions that have occurred before this Pag group was started.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuMHTNeUDrI&feature=youtu.be  This is the Lacemaking in Croatia video that has informed the world about Pag lace.  Only part of it is on true needle lace.  It also contains bobbin lace, filet lacis and sol lace.

The basic elements of Pag lace:

The lacecorner site, from which we got our Pag elements has disappeared from the internet. A great loss. 

This one shows the elements of Pag diagrammed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XpZ8A29Y21Y

This large site, in Croatian and English, has lots of photos

 http://www.paska-cipka.com/paska-cipka.html

The stitches with English names, by Linda Dumas

   http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-stitches

HOW TO MAKE PAG LACE:

Go through the images in  these albums, one after another.  They show the basic steps to laying a skeleton and connecting the parts. We have no verbal instructions - language problem - but the photos in sequence show each step in the process. There are over 200 photos covering the new elements in 3 pieces of lace.

I have also put these sequential photos into pdf files, which can be downloaded. You can access them here.

PAG NEEDLE LACE, Pattern 1

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-1   skeleton

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-2   1st circle

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-3    2nd circle

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-4    3rd circle

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-5    outer circle & ending

Here is the same information and sequence of photos, shown one after another, without moving from page to page.

PagLaceOne-pt1   scapi  skeleton

PagLaceOne-pt2   kolumbar, flower, 1st ring

PagLaceOne-pt3   center ring,  retki dintel,  zupcic (picots)

PagLaceOne-pt4  pogacica (diamond shapes)

PagLaceOne-pt5  Outer circle.Ending and cutting the lace free

PAG NEEDLE LACE PATTERN TWO

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-two-1 

PAG NEEDLE LACE PATTERN THREE

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-three-1 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-three-2 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-three-3 

PAG LACE - MENDULICA

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/pagneedlelace/page/mendulica

Patterns:

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-patterns-and-grids

PATTERNS AND PHOTOS OF PAG LACE ON OUR SITE:

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-style-lace

circle grid 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-by-us 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-antique

Photos:

This one is a slide show of several Pag mats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6HizBLXS_k 

Paska Cipka/Lace from Pag by Nerina Eckhel.  Available from Mary Chapman Bookseller.  Don't know the content, whether it is lessons or pictures or history.

This is a slide show including needle lace, filet lacis, bobbin lace made in Croatia:

http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/index.php?RL=00245&topic=diapo#/culture/ich/img/photo/thumb/01233-LRG.jpg 

http://www.paska-cipka.com/paska-cipka.html

Do a google search on      Pag cipka    and    Paska cipka     Paška čipka

Discussion Forum

PagLaceOne-pt5 2 Replies

These are Xiaojie's photos. I am just arranging them in a manner easier to use.…Continue

Started by Lorelei Halley. Last reply by Lorelei Halley Aug 15.

PagLaceOne -pt4

These are Xiaojie's photos. I have just posted them sequentially to make them easier to use.…Continue

Tags: paška čipka, Pag needle lace

Started by Lorelei Halley Aug 14.

PagLaceOne-pt1-skeleton 9 Replies

This part explains how to lay down the skeleton of the lace -- the major circles and the spokes.These are Xiaojie's photographs. I just tried to make them easier to use, by putting them into a…Continue

Tags: paška čipka, Pag needle lace

Started by Lorelei Halley. Last reply by Lorelei Halley Apr 13, 2018.

Pag lace 3 Replies

Could anyone tell me what thread should I use? Is sewing cotton too thin?

Started by Maria. Last reply by Xiaojie Sep 12, 2016.

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Comment by Maxine on October 11, 2019 at 6:26pm
Thank you for the patterns and instructions. The piece is gorgeous. Looking forward to doing one myself.
Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti. on October 11, 2019 at 6:12pm

Wow! that is an amazing piece. Thanks for the link.

I see an eye specialist next week and hope that he will do the cataract in my "other " eye, so I can see properly, without squinting badly.  I might, then, be able to get back to some needlelace, which I have missed, over the last 2 years. Thank goodness I could Tat, as that has been my savior since the other eye was not very successfully operated on.

Comment by Lorelei Halley on October 11, 2019 at 3:56pm

a photo of a large Pag piece, posted on facebook today --

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/73013592_261413160531... 

Comment by Lorelei Halley on August 24, 2019 at 6:09pm

I have just posted pdf files containing Xiaojie's sequential photos showing the working methods of Pag lace. I think they will be easier to use in that format, since you can print them out, on legal size paper. I also plan to archive them so they will be available to the world long term. (But first I have to figure out how to do that!)  The links are on the page titled PAG PATTERNS AND INSTRUCTIONS. Look for the box below the member avatars.

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/group/pagneedlelace/page/pag-pattern...

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti. on February 6, 2019 at 7:07pm
What a beautiful piece, Lorelei (on Facebook.) It really has the Wow factor.
Thank you for the link.
Comment by Carolyn Wetzel on February 6, 2019 at 4:58pm
Linda - looking back at your comment from June 2018, have you tried a Honiton pillow for Pag lace? I've thought about it, but still have a piece of Honiton on it that I need to finish first!
Comment by Lorelei Halley on February 5, 2019 at 5:01pm
Comment by Linda Dumas on June 10, 2018 at 9:03am

I have some thoughts on Pag Lace.  

1.  I have been using option 2 for the Listacic question and I am much happier.

2.  The pillow used for making the Pag lace can either make it easier or more difficult to make the lace.  It needs to be a very stiff pillow.  I find that as I am making the stitches, I push on the pillow and if it is not stiff, then the stitch is not make correctly.  I have studied the Croatian Pag Lace pillows and they all seem to be very stiff but a rectangle.  I have tried to make this pillow myself without success.  But the other day I discovered that I had the PERFECT pillow right here in my house.  As it turns out, it is the center insert of a bobbin lace pillow.what you see in this picture is the roller insert but they also make a round pillow insert for this.  as it turns out, it is perfect because it is stiff on the top (to use pins to hold pieces of the lace), it is round, it has some depth and it is heavy enough but not too heavy.  I will find pictures to show you.

3.  If you are going to start a lace piece (I should have thought of this) make sure the thread that you are using either you have enough of or can get more.  I am using a color blue of DMC cordonnet 20 that they don't make anymore.  I hope I have enough.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Linda

Comment by Linda Dumas on May 12, 2018 at 8:30am

On the Listacic question.  It is difficult to describe this, so I will break it down to the first piece.  when the stitch is started, is it like the top picture with a simple loop or is it like the bottom picture with the stitch?  any help would be appreciated.   If are still out their Xiaojie can you let me know? thank you so much.

Comment by Carolyn Wetzel on March 12, 2017 at 9:33pm
What a great set of photos! Thanks for posting the link.
 
 
 

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