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Pag Needle Lace

For those who want to learn Pag--the Croatian needle lace-- or discuss its features and working methods.  The icon is from the lacecorner website, and used with their permission.

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Latest Activity: Mar 12

Resources for Pag Needle Lace

To start, look for the black bar at the very top of the screen.  On its right hand edge is a search slot, for searches that operate on our network only.  Type in Pag and you will find the scattered discussions that have occurred before this Pag group was started.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuMHTNeUDrI&feature=youtu.be  This is the Lacemaking in Croatia video that has informed the world about Pag lace.  Only part of it is on true needle lace.  It also contains bobbin lace, filet lacis and sol lace.

The basic elements of Pag lace:

The lacecorner site, from which we got our Pag elements has disappeared from the internet. A great loss. 

This one shows the elements of Pag diagrammed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XpZ8A29Y21Y

This large site, in Croatian and English, has lots of photos

   http://www.paska-cipka.com/en/ 

and a page full of element symbols:

   http://www.paska-cipka.com/en/2011-07-26-15-55-43/jezik-cipkarica-2.html 

The stitches with English names, by Linda Dumas

   http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-stitches

HOW TO MAKE PAG LACE:

Go through the images in  these albums, one after another.  They show the basic steps to laying a skeleton and connecting the parts. We have no verbal instructions - language problem - but the photos in sequence show each step in the process. There are over 200 photos covering the new elements in 3 pieces of lace.

PAG NEEDLE LACE, Pattern 1

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-1   skeleton

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-2   1st circle

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-3    2nd circle

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-4    3rd circle

  http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-one-part-5    outer circle & ending

Here is the same information and sequence of photos, shown one after another, without moving from page to page.

PagLaceOne-pt1   scapi  skeleton

PagLaceOne-pt2   kolumbar, gusti dintel, flower - 1st ring

PagLaceOne-pt3   center ring, kolumbar, retki dintel, gusti dintel, zupcic (picots)

PagLaceOne-pt4   pogacica (diamond shapes)

PagLaceOne-pt5   Outer circle.Ending and cutting the lace free

PAG NEEDLE LACE PATTERN TWO

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-two-1 

PAG NEEDLE LACE PATTERN THREE

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-three-1 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-three-2 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-three-3 

PAG LACE - MENDULICA

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace-mendulica 

Patterns:

This one shows some patterns from a pattern book.  They can be printed off if you stop the video.  We can use them for patterns, if we can figure out how to work them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJpkZ2pFKdg&feature=related

PATTERNS AND PHOTOS OF PAG LACE ON OUR SITE:

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-lace 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-style-lace

circle grid 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-by-us 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/pag-antique

Photos:

http://thetextileblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/traditional-croatian-lace.html 

http://www.dubrovacki.hr/clanak/15961/pag-u-lipnju-organizira-i-medunarodni-festival-cipke

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.122145114515800.18332.100001609375427&type=3 

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.122145114515800.18332.100001609375427&type=1

This one is a slide show of several Pag mats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6HizBLXS_k 

This set has about a dozen Pag needle laces towards the end:   https://picasaweb.google.com/110216202970792717321/InternationalFestivalOfBobbinLaceInBobowa2010Polska610102010#

Paska Cipka/Lace from Pag by Nerina Eckhel.  Available from Mary Chapman Bookseller.  Don't know the content, whether it is lessons or pictures or history.

This is a slide show including needle lace, filet lacis, bobbin lace made in Croatia:

http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/index.php?RL=00245&topic=diapo#/culture/ich/img/photo/thumb/01233-LRG.jpg 

http://www.paska-cipka.com/en/2011-07-15-17-06-39/2011-07-15-17-07-8.html 

 

Do a google search on      Pag cipka    and    Paska cipka     Paška čipka

Discussion Forum

Pag lace 3 Replies

Could anyone tell me what thread should I use? Is sewing cotton too thin?

Started by Maria. Last reply by Xiaojie Sep 12, 2016.

PagLaceOne-pt3-CenterRing

These are Xiaojie's photos, showing the sequence of work on center ring and picots.…Continue

Tags: paška čipka, Pag needle lace

Started by Lorelei Halley Sep 6, 2015.

PagLaceOne-pt2-1stRing 3 Replies

These sequential photos are the work of Xiaojie. I have just put them into a form which may be easier to use. This part shows how to make the kolumbar, gusti dintel, flower - 1st ring.…Continue

Tags: paška čipka, Pag needle lace

Started by Lorelei Halley. Last reply by Maxine Aug 29, 2015.

PagLaceOne-pt1-skeleton 2 Replies

This part explains how to lay down the skeleton of the lace -- the major circles and the spokes.These are Xiaojie's photographs. I just tried to make them easier to use, by putting them into a…Continue

Tags: paška čipka, Pag needle lace

Started by Lorelei Halley. Last reply by Elizabeth Ligeti. Jul 25, 2015.

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Comment by Lorelei Halley on March 18, 2015 at 3:31pm

Some Pag photos from facebook

one   two   and a clue as to working sequence 

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti. on February 23, 2015 at 7:55pm

Just an update. - I have heard from Linda and she is OK.

Thanks for the reply to my query.

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti. on February 22, 2015 at 6:43pm

Has anyone heard anything of Linda recently.  I haven't heard from her since before Christmas. I sent her an message in the New Year, but got no reply, - and last year we were chatting a lot!

I am so very worried about her. It is so unusual .

We met "for real" at Salt Lake City IOLI Convention, and again last year at Sacramento, - in fact she sat with me at a couple of the meals - the final night Banquet being one of them. 

I would appreciate it if anyone has heard from her recently, to let me know.

Comment by Lorelei Halley on October 3, 2014 at 10:40pm

Whenever you have questions as you work. post them here. One of us will reply.

Comment by Denise Trudel on October 3, 2014 at 8:38pm

Thank you for a quick reply Lorelei.  I sure will try with the files here.  I will print the circles tomorrow and will read all the comments before  beginning.  I sure will share my attempt.

Comment by Lorelei Halley on October 3, 2014 at 7:05pm

Denise

We have been searching for at least 2 years. The only book is about the history of lacemaking in Croatia, but does not explain how it is done.  What we do have is a member who calls herself Xiaojie. She has prepared 3 tutorials for us in the form of sequential photos that show every stage of the work. The photos are collected into albums. If you look very closely at all the photos in sequence you will see what to do.  It may be difficult to follow if you have not done much needlelace. Some experience with reticella might help. But Pag working methods are different from reticella in some important ways.  Look above for PAG NEEDLE LACE PATTERN 1. Because it is the first it took 5 albums to hold all the photos. Every step is shown. Begin with that. A few of us have worked through those.

The first step is to lay the scaffolding, then you build outwards from that beginning at the center.

Comment by Denise Trudel on October 3, 2014 at 6:49pm

Is there a book about Pag Lace ( Croatian Lace ) that can be mail ordered?

Comment by Lorelei Halley on September 11, 2014 at 5:14pm

It sounds like a great trip, Annetta.

Comment by Annetta on September 11, 2014 at 2:51pm
Hello laceFriends,

I have been,last week, in Croatia. I have visited the lace museum in Pag. There I have seen the beautyful lace. The yarn they use is much thinner than I thought. Actualy it is like sewingyarn, in the Netherlands thickness 50 or 60. I have aksed to someone, she said the yarn was nothing special. You could buy it on the market. I couldn't do that, because we were there in the evening, but an other time I will look for it.i am glad that we have been there in Pag and the museum was opened.
Greatings, Annetta
Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti. on September 5, 2014 at 8:14pm

That is good, Lorelei. Those diamonds in the outer ring are so hard to do. I found it almost impossible to keep the threads laying side by side properly, as I wanted them to do.

You could pull the stitches a bit tighter for the "spider" in the centre, so the threads lay next to each other, -- but it is all just practice.  Don't be Disgusted with yourself,  You are doing OK, - so please stick with it, and don't be disheartened.

 
 
 

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