Make, learn and talk about needle lace.
I can only comment on the Armenian type of knotted lace - and I am a beginner, too! the knot is worked the same for all these laces, I believe.
Adjust the length of your loop just before you tighten the knot, by inserting the tip of the needle into the knot and you can adjust the loop if it is too big. Pull up the loop if it is too small.
To tighten the knot, I have been told to hold the thread (between thumb and first finger) a couple of inches from the knot, and firmly roll my hand so the thread rolls over the thumb, - ie. roll the hand inwards. I am told I am not tightening my knots enough, and that will be sorted out in class at IOLI!
Elena Dickson has brought out a video on her Eastern Mediterranean lace, and it is very helpful. Especially as I have her books. - Usual disclaimer, - just a satisfied customer!! I was put in contact with her, and she has emailed me with help! I look forward to meeting her next week.
The Eastern Med lace (Armenian) is worked only from left to right, but Puncetto is worked both ways. I am not sure about Bebilla-Oya types. I hope to find out next week!
thank you for your comments! i'll bet it has been fun, if not frustrating, to research these topics for your book! and yes, we are talking about igne oyalari, or the needle-made turkish lace. i have seen some books on the bead oya and crochet oya, and i may have to check those out too! ;)
i have seen the kit from thread teds on ebay which whom you are referring to, and i contemplated buying it after hearing it suggested somewhere else. the only thing that turned me off about it was the teddy bear. i know it seems that everyone in the world loves teddy bears, but i really do not, a little too cutesy for me. also, it seems a complicated first project for a very new beginner. i do believe that it includes instructions for some oya flowers also, though. i am not disputing the validity of this kit as a learning resource, i just did not think it would best for myself personally.
as far as learning, i am fairing well with the book i have on hand, it includes many simple edgings in needle oya, that are absolutely appropriate for the novice. and if you know of more books to learn from, or even pattern books, that aren't listed on the main page of this group, we would love to what they are so we can look them up!!! personally, i'm a book collector and i LOVE books about my hand crafts!!
also, i know that my tension and quality of work will increase with practice. i think what frustrated me most about it though, was that the book i have didn't mention ANY ways to regulate tension. and in the very few videos on the internet that show turkish women (who could surely qualify as oya experts!!) their hands are just FLYING!!!! it's amazing, but not very easy to see what they're actually doing! lol
Sorry I confused you, Jessica.
When you turn your work for the next row, - again you are working from left to right. (2nd row is wrong side facing) - As you say, Like Knitting.
As far as I understand it, Puncetto is worked left to right, and then right to left, - with the same side (right side) facing you always. That seems to be the main difference, I think, as the knotted stitch is about the same, I believe.
The booklet and kit from ThreadTeds (without the creative capitalization) is ONLY for the oya. She makes teddy bears like the one on the cover of her oya book and decorates them with oya flowers. Again, the booklet and kit only has step-by-step instructions for needle oya.
that's good to know, i'll have to go back and look at it and consider buying it!!! :D
You will find conflicting instructions about which way to work needle oya. A common way is to work right to left, then bring the needle and thread back to the right side for the next row, leaving a length of thread on top of the loops of the first row. Your second row of knots incorporates that thread laying across the top of the loops. I have, however, seen people who work each row from left to right and some oyalari instructions have you work back and forth for certain motifs.
yes, i knew you COULD work by laying the thread back across the row and starting row #2 in the same place you started row #1. but i COMPLETELY misunderstood elizabeth as saying that the eastern med. lace *from the books by elena dickson* could ONLY be worked by laying the thread back across and starting at your beginning point again. that was my not reading carefully enough.