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Comment by Teri Dow on November 27, 2013 at 5:20am
Hi Elizabeth thank you so much for this reply. I do have the Catherine Barley strawberry book and at class this is always being referred to by someone. I think I overheard someone say the other day that it was their Needlelace bible. thank you also for the offer of assistance, I would very much like to accept your help in mastering this technique. not experimented with any picots etc so far as I tend to try and learn one thing at a time. My goal for today will be preparing a test piece for trying out the raised work. I will also join gros point section etc
Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti. on November 26, 2013 at 7:37pm

I think the technique you are thinking of, Teri, is used in Gros Point. Do you have the Catherine Barley book,

 "Needlelace.. Designs & Techniques..."? It has strawberries on the front cover.

That shows you how to do the raised work (where I learned from originally!)  The additional threads are laid with more in the centre than the outer ends, and they are held in place with special tacking stitches. then as you stitch over the bundle, you add more threads to raise it up further.  It is not a technique I teach unless the lacemaker is fairly experienced.  I feel it is too difficult for near beginners. You work any embellishments as you go along, so you are very busy!!! - especially if you are like me, and like lots of rings and picots decorating the work!!!!!

I can help you with this, but maybe in the Gros Point section, or private messages if we are "friends".

Comment by Lorelei Halley on November 26, 2013 at 3:36pm

One can lay extra threads on top of the outline when you get to the point of buttonholing the outline.  Lots of extra threads makes for a sculpted raised effect.

Comment by Teri Dow on November 26, 2013 at 4:02am
Sorry last words should read...threads through. I just love the carved ivory effect, it brings things to life and ultimately I think this is an area I would like to concentrate on in future projects. Its fascinating and I shall be as tenacious as a terrier trying to master it. Thanks in advance for any further guidance.
Comment by Teri Dow on November 26, 2013 at 3:56am
Hi Elizabeth thanks for your reply. I Have done the outline scaffold the traditional way unaware of being able to use the fil de trace method too. I thought fil de trace was used to do raised curves to create a more prominent feature. I have experimented on this aspect here, albeit, not very successful doing it my way.I simply lay the additional threads on top, couched them down and then buttonholed them but understand this is not the correct method. I was once shown how to do it properly but because I left it for a while, the technique now eludes me! There was something about gently pulling the laid threadsntheough
Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti. on November 25, 2013 at 7:22pm

 We aim to be seductive. We succeed, I think, Lorelei!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Teri, I usually lay my double outline thread, and couch it down through the pad with stitches in sewing cotton about 2mm or ¼ inch apart.  I am just beginning to have a go at the Aemilia Ars way - of making the couching stitches first and then threading the needle thread through them!

The main thing is to make sure every thread links over the other laid threads, - NOt the couching threads, - or your lace will fall apart when taken off the pad.  Link everything together, as the filling and top  stiches are not strong enough to hold the lace together.

I like to lay my outline thread in one continuous line, - so it becomes a bit of a mental challenge to work out how to get around the whole piece with the one double thread!!!

Comment by Lorelei Halley on November 25, 2013 at 6:00pm

We aim to be seductive.

Comment by Teri Dow on November 25, 2013 at 11:22am
Thank you Lorelei for pointing me in The right Direction. I'm really enjoying these two sites and don't seem to be able to tear myself away from them!
Comment by Lorelei Halley on November 24, 2013 at 5:10pm de trace  

Aemilia ars is made that way, I think.

Sylvia's tutorial clearly shows the tacking stitches put in first.

Comment by Teri Dow on November 24, 2013 at 3:27pm
Thank you Elizabeth for your kind comments. Could you please advise me where I can find details on fil de trace? I have referenced several needle lace books but, unfortunately, I am still having difficulty getting my head around having to pull threads through as opposed to just cutting the threads to requisite lengths etc. Thanking you in advance.

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