Don't worry about losing contact with other needlelacers. I have set up test groups on google and on yahoo to see if either of them have features that work for us. We have some members who wouldn't mind a small fee, but many clearly prefer a total free internet group. So I am looking into the latter as apparently the preferred direction. But I won't know what ning will charge until May 4th and I'd like to wait till then for us to decide what to do. I am glad to hear your opinion on this matter and will keep it in mind. Personally the equivalent of $10 per year per person is the miximum I would consider accepting but even that is more than I want to pay myself, as I also am retired on a very small pension.